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 Post subject: Re: America a Christian Nation?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 5:54 pm 
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There seems to be a collective irrational belief in American goodness and a minimizing of our evil, by many, because of the false belief that our good outweighs our evil. Ask people, the lost and the thought-to-be saved, why they believe they are going to Heaven and an enormous amount of them will tell you, "Well, I'm a pretty good person... I think I've done more good than bad."


Let me ask you this -- do you hold to the doctrine of "sinless perfection?" Do you believe that the state of sinless perfection is not only possible, but it is necessary for the new birth? Edit: I see Jeff has already sort of asked you this more than once!

I mean really, what meets the standard of a "Christian nation" in your narrative?

If you're going to compare a NATION to an individual person's salvation as you have done above, it's a fair question don't you think? This is why I said your entire topic is kind of a non starter.

Do you think a Christian is a person who never does anything bad or sinful? Do you think a Christian ( or a Christian nation ) would never make a mistake and break the law or disappoint the Lord? Do you think a saved person can never do anything that is vile or an abomination in the eyes of God?

This is an honest question and I hope you will get out here and answer it like a man, because I think I may have found your problem!

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Brother Stafford, I understand the point you are trying to make, but I have a couple of questions for you.

1. Why do you think God called Jonah to Nineveh?

2. Do you think there is a significance to the two angels coming to question lot about his family?

Here are a couple of thoughts I have on the subject. God did not want to bring judgement on Nineveh. He sincerely hoped they would repent. Sure he already knew the outcome, but I believe Jonah would have been called either way. I also believe it is possible that if Lot would have produced 10, than God would of spared Sodom. Where are your 10 brother Stafford?

I may have this wrong, but it seems to me that your too caught up with this nations sin, and not enough with hope. Kind of like a man preaching on sin without preaching on repentance, or condemnation without salvation. I believe the lord has waited this long, because he knows there are men who are going to stand up and proclaim his glorious gospel, that this nation has plenty of men and women who have resolved to be set apart, and that it is very well possible however unlikely, for national repentance and or revival. There are still souls being saved, and there is still hope. So brother, are you doing your part, or is it to late?


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PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 7:57 pm 
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It is obvious that neither one of you, Jeff or Baptist, have any interest in engaging in civil disagreement without belittling me as a person. I have, time and time again, shared my opinions about the nation as a generalized, collective whole and I am not ashamed of my opinions. I have refrained, the best I can, from making personal attacks and insults toward both of your characters, and have attempted to find common ground and have tried to be civil. However, I have not been afforded the same consideration.

My questions go ignored while I am accused of not answering yours. I don't even know what is rhetorical or not.
Baptist wrote: "And I asked a question which you never answered -- how many people has America saved? How many millions would have died had Americans not bled and died to save them with our military presence, across Europe, Asia and other places?" Are you honestly expecting an answer to that question and others like it? Are you waiting for me to research and come up with mathematical equations that would estimate an actual number of lives have been saved?

Baptist asked: "Let me ask you this -- do you enjoy the protection provided you by the American police in your town? Do you enjoy and benefit from the freedom American patriots purchased for you with their blood? Do you ever stop to thank God for America when you carry on your furniture business, "reading, studying and discussing the KJV, amateur vegetable gardening, visiting historical one room churches, tattoo removal" and whatever else you do when you're not hating America?"

Am I also to assume that this was a cluster of non rhetorical questions? Of course I enjoy certain benefits. I also enjoy the fact that Atheists don't walk up to me and spit in my face whenever they please. I also enjoy the fact that I can eat a meal without a stranger walking up and sitting on it. The freedoms that I enjoy have been given to me by God, not Americans. Do I thank God for America? No, I do not. I thank God for Christ and His sacrifice. Would you ask the Christians in Iran if they thank God for Iran? Sure, Iran is pretty bad, but it could be worse, right? Those Iranian Christians had better get some hyper-patriotism going right now.

It seems like the servicemen here fought for my right to have certain freedoms as long as I practice them in a way of which they approve and that I must be eternally grateful. It seems like every freedom or convenience Americans are able to presently enjoy somehow is the result of every soldier who has ever fought and that those soldiers have the right to dictate how those rights are exercised.

You didn't fight for my right to speak my opinions, you fought for the continuance of a government that will decide what rights I may have and what rights I may not. The sodomites can make just as valid of an argument that countless soldiers died so that a man would have the right to marry another man. When pedophilia becomes legal eventually (and it will), Pedophiles will be able to make the same claim to the lives of fallen soldiers.

You see, you also fought for the right of sleezebags to engage in legal prostitution by opening strip clubs and making pornography, hastening the spread of some of the most vile diseases imaginable. You fought for the right for a woman to pay a doctor to dismember her baby for her convenience. You fought for the right for people to open countless alcohol-pushing bars. You fought for the right for states to start legalizing and commercializing marijuana. You fought for the right of Hollywood to create some of the most vile and godless "entertainment" known to man; much of which includes the legal sexualization of children. So, don't you sit on your high horses and tell me about the rights that you fought for, because you fought for all of that garbage to be legal too.

I do not believe your assertions that America has ever been a Christian nation. A Christian nation would be a nation full of sinners, but one that had a government that recognizes evil and refuses to promote it and legalize it. A Christian nation would consist of a majority of Bible believing Christians that are still sinners, yet strive to be obedient to God. You can cite all the polls you like, but we all know that anyone can cite whatever polls or studies they like tho support their position. Just looking around in the real world should be enough proof that the majority of people are ungodly and have no desire to be otherwise.

Do I hold to the doctrine of sinless perfection? Are you kidding me? Is that a real question? Of course I don't If you notice, in my signature, I have 1 Timothy 1:15. You guys keep saying that I have said that there is nothing worth salvaging and I have not said anything like it. I have said that individual people are worth salvaging and that our priority should be to share the Gospel with them. Why would I put so much importance on spreading the Gospel if I thought every single person in America was beyond salvaging and worthless?

Do I do anything about abortion? Yes I do. I have started a ministry that contacts Christian couples looking to adopt, with women who are looking to have abortions so the couples can adopt the unwanted babies. We also speak with women and convince them to keep their babies and help them with money, food, clothing, help them find affordable housing, (often opening our own homes) help them get off of drugs and alcohol and accompany them to probation appointments and speak with their probation officers. Is it enough? I don't know, but it's a start. How about you?

Jeff keeps stating that I said, "S**w you" directly to him and to his face. I said "S**w patriotism" and I have never even met Jeff in person. I have since edited that post that contains that word with an explanation that I now understand that that word was profane and inappropriate and that I would not be using that word again. If others here found the word as profane and offensive "vile" as they claim, it surprises me that they keep using it.

How about just one of my questions being answered? Jeff, why did you seem to suggest that I kill myself?
Jeff wrote: "What are you doing here. You're of no use to anyone, why don't you just go ahead and get to the only Kingdom you belong in?"

You can choose to answer it or not; I really don't care any longer. I have already engaged in this for too long. You are blinded by your undying passion for America and cannot see past it. If anyone says anything against it, you see red and cannot seem to discuss things rationally.

(Proverbs 26:4-5) "Answer not a fool according to his folly, lest thou also be like unto him. {5} Answer a fool according to his folly, lest he be wise in his own conceit."

I have attempted this to the best of my ability.

(2 Timothy 2:23-25) "But foolish and unlearned questions avoid, knowing that they do gender strifes. {24} And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient, {25} In meekness instructing those that oppose themselves; if God peradventure will give them repentance to the acknowledging of the truth;"

I have also attempted this, but I believe that I failed miserably. I will not be engaging in any further conversation on this forum. Comment on this last post, by all means, if it makes you feel better, but if you ask me to answer any further questions, they will go unanswered because they will not be seen. You will have to speak about me and call me a coward behind my back.

You all enjoy 'Merica, I'm going to go out and keep knocking on doors.

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 Post subject: Re: America a Christian Nation?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:38 pm 
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Brother Stafford wrote:
The freedoms that I enjoy have been given to me by God, not Americans.

I'll remember that; next time I walk through the 400,000 graves at Arlington Cemetary.

Brother Stafford wrote:
I will not be engaging in any further conversation on this forum.

Bro. Stafford,
Since you have decided to leave of your own free will (again) we will go ahead and lock your account. Last time it took us a while to sort things out after you came back and deleted all your posts, and we don't want to go through that again. Thanks for your understanding.

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 Post subject: Re: America a Christian Nation?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 9:52 pm 
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Brother Stafford wrote:
It is obvious that neither one of you, Jeff or Baptist, have any interest in engaging in civil disagreement without belittling me as a person. I have, time and time again, shared my opinions about the nation as a generalized, collective whole and I am not ashamed of my opinions. I have refrained, the best I can, from making personal attacks and insults toward both of your characters, and have attempted to find common ground and have tried to be civil. However, I have not been afforded the same consideration.

Unfortunately, Bro. Stafford, your claims of treating us with respect while we don't afford you the same courtesy is untrue. Also your opinions do reflect your character as a man. You can't separate the two.

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My questions go ignored while I am accused of not answering yours. I don't even know what is rhetorical or not.
Tell you what, I'll start compiling a list of what I believe are legitimate questions that you haven't responded to, and you can do the same for me. Start putting your facts where your mouth is.

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Of course I enjoy certain benefits. I also enjoy the fact that Atheists don't walk up to me and spit in my face whenever they please. I also enjoy the fact that I can eat a meal without a stranger walking up and sitting on it. The freedoms that I enjoy have been given to me by God, not Americans. Do I thank God for America? No, I do not. I thank God for Christ and His sacrifice.
Who and what has God used to give you these rights and privileges? Are you denying that men have paid a real and personal price for them? Are the sacrifices of the men that God has used worthless to you? (And these are questions, and not rhetorical ones.) If a man on the street helps you out if your car breaks down, or something, do you refuse to tell him "thank you" because the blessing ultimately comes from God? (This is another non rhetorical question.) Or wait, you did state you thank God for Christ and His sacrifice, so it appears you may not even thank God for the temporal blessings that God has used others to give you. You truly must be the most ungrateful Christian I've ever encountered.
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Would you ask the Christians in Iran if they thank God for Iran? Sure, Iran is pretty bad, but it could be worse, right? Those Iranian Christians had better get some hyper-patriotism going right now.
Aren't we to thank God for all things? Patriotism desires to change its country for the good, it isn't the worship of government you seem to make it out to be. North Korean Christians can and should be patriotic. You might would consider them to be stupid, but they do care about their nation, and they should, a nation is made of of people God loves. North Koreans can show patriotism, but you see it as beneath you. Or do you believe that all Iranians and N. Koreans are as unthankful as you are? (Another question I asked was is in what way did you disagree with Webster's 1828 definition of patriotism.)

Maybe if you actually lived in Iran you would get a clue. I think you realize that we are blessed here, though you will not admit it, otherwise you wouldn't be contrasting Iran with the US.

I think unappreciative Christians like you, who take advantage but are unthankful for the privileges they've been afforded, deserve persecution, and I hate to say it, but it may the best thing for us all. It seems persecution does seem to make Christians stronger, and it may make men like you start appreciating what you've been blessed with and the price other men have paid to give them to ungrateful men like you.

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It seems like every freedom or convenience Americans are able to presently enjoy somehow is the result of every soldier who has ever fought and that those soldiers have the right to dictate how those rights are exercised.
I guess that when men have paid a price for men like you, I expect you to at least recognize that and to realize what would have happened without them. Again, I believe that there are certain duties to ournation that God expects men to perform, but you see yourself as only having your spiritual duties. Remember; Romans 13 was brought up, Peter says to honour the king. That's Biblical! What gives you the right to say that the Biblical precepts are beneath you? Or do you honor authority? As in our nation we the people are to be the authority, are you doing your civic duty, or are you denying the Bible? (I don't care if you see this question as rhetorical or not, as I don't expect an honest reasoned answer from you given your past history.)

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You didn't fight for my right to speak my opinions, you fought for the continuance of a government that will decide what rights I may have and what rights I may not. The sodomites can make just as valid of an argument that countless soldiers died so that a man would have the right to marry another man. When pedophilia becomes legal eventually (and it will), Pedophiles will be able to make the same claim to the lives of fallen soldiers.
Do you really have no clue? You really don't know how our system of government is supposed to work, even though it's been discussed over and over and over again on here?

Once again, the people, that includes you, are supposed to be the government. If you refuse to be involved, then why would you be surprised that the ungodly seem to be winning?

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You see, you also fought for the right of sleezebags to engage in legal prostitution by opening strip clubs and making pornography, hastening the spread of some of the most vile diseases imaginable. You fought for the right for a woman to pay a doctor to dismember her baby for her convenience. You fought for the right for people to open countless alcohol-pushing bars. You fought for the right for states to start legalizing and commercializing marijuana. You fought for the right of Hollywood to create some of the most vile and godless "entertainment" known to man; much of which includes the legal sexualization of children. So, don't you sit on your high horses and tell me about the rights that you fought for, because you fought for all of that garbage to be legal too.


Don't accuse me of fighting for all this and then claim you are not attacking my character.
Men fought for your right to live in peace without being beheaded by ISIS. Men fought for your right to do nothing and then complain when your inaction has a negative effect. Men fought for your right to live in great wealth and comfort even as you show contempt for them and your country.

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I do not believe your assertions that America has ever been a Christian nation. A Christian nation would be a nation full of sinners, but one that had a government that recognizes evil and refuses to promote it and legalize it. A Christian nation would consist of a majority of Bible believing Christians that are still sinners, yet strive to be obedient to God. You can cite all the polls you like, but we all know that anyone can cite whatever polls or studies they like tho support their position. Just looking around in the real world should be enough proof that the majority of people are ungodly and have no desire to be otherwise.
You just keep ignoring all the facts. I don't know how many times Baptist, for one, has addressed these issues, yet you continue on with how corrupt everything is. Yet once again, if you've turned your back on your country, and are doing nothing for your country as a citizen, you are a big part of the problem.

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Do I hold to the doctrine of sinless perfection? Are you kidding me? Is that a real question? Of course I don't If you notice, in my signature, I have 1 Timothy 1:15. You guys keep saying that I have said that there is nothing worth salvaging and I have not said anything like it. I have said that individual people are worth salvaging and that our priority should be to share the Gospel with them. Why would I put so much importance on spreading the Gospel if I thought every single person in America was beyond salvaging and worthless?
You did say that you believe that this nation is beyond salvaging, so don't deny it now. Or do you not realize that a nation is made up of people? I know I've tried to point that out to you before. If you believe that it is possible to save individuals, why do you believe a national revival would be impossible. Is God limited? You sure seem to be limiting Him. You need to be accurate with your words and when quoting our words. Don't say something, and then say that you didn't say what we said you said after you misquote what we said.

Bro. Jones, for one, brought up Nineveh.

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Do I do anything about abortion? Yes I do. I have started a ministry that contacts Christian couples looking to adopt, with women who are looking to have abortions so the couples can adopt the unwanted babies. We also speak with women and convince them to keep their babies and help them with money, food, clothing, help them find affordable housing, (often opening our own homes) help them get off of drugs and alcohol and accompany them to probation appointments and speak with their probation officers. Is it enough? I don't know, but it's a start. How about you?
I'm impressed that you are actually involved in such a ministry. But wouldn't it be helpful if abortion was not "legal" in the first place, you think making abortion illegal might even save more babies than dealing with people on an individual basis? What you're doing is good and needful, but can't you be involved in your local politics and such as we are, to try to make abortion illegal and stop funding to Planned Parenthood?

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Jeff keeps stating that I said, "S**w you" directly to him and to his face. I said "S**w patriotism" and I have never even met Jeff in person. I have since edited that post that contains that word with an explanation that I now understand that that word was profane and inappropriate and that I would not be using that word again. If others here found the word as profane and offensive "vile" as they claim, it surprises me that they keep using it.
Again, wording is important here. I said that "in effect" you've said that to my face. When you say that about patriotism, you are saying that about patriots. I never knew that you edited that post and never saw where you took your blatant contempt for patriotism, and by extension, patriots back. In the same way, I believe that when you have contempt for this country, you have contempt for every citizen in this country. I've brought up how Paul actually proclaimed his Roman citizenship, are you above Paul in that?

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How about just one of my questions being answered? Jeff, why did you seem to suggest that I kill myself?
Jeff wrote: "What are you doing here. You're of no use to anyone, why don't you just go ahead and get to the only Kingdom you belong in?"
I've explained that. Please pay attention. It was a hyperbolic illustration of you disclaiming any citizenship in this nation and by extension, this world. I asked you what you were doing here, and why God would have placed you here, as you claim no part of this world, and have no patriotic or civic duty here. This country would have failed long ago if all Christians had taken the attitude that you have and disclaimed any part or any duties or allegiance to the place God placed you.

I do apologize that on second look, it's appropriateness is questionable. But still, why did God place you here if, unlike Paul, you disown where He has placed you. Despite being a citizen of Heaven, you are also living in a physical realm, and you have certain physical duties.

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You can choose to answer it or not; I really don't care any longer. I have already engaged in this for too long. You are blinded by your undying passion for America and cannot see past it. If anyone says anything against it, you see red and cannot seem to discuss things rationally.
Which one of us is really blinded, the one with an unbiblical hatred of his nation, or the one with a passion for it? I don't see how you can claim to be setting the example for rationality.

You said earlier:
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All you seem to be hearing from me is that I hate a place that you love. A place that will not matter, in the end. I hate evil and godlessness and everything else God hates and I know that you hate all of those things too. I just happen to believe that I hate one more thing than you.
Yes, America will cease to exist. But you are really blind if you believe that all the missionaries she has sent out, and all the good she has done throughout the world will have no lasting eternal effect.

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You all enjoy 'Merica, I'm going to go out and keep knocking on doors.
Another clearly contemptuous statement. It's good you're knocking on doors, but I think your testimony as a Christian would be better if you set the example of a good citizen and showed less contempt and ungratefulness for where God has placed you.

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I am not ashamed of my opinions.
Then you won't go through and delete them all?


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Babylon wasn't a perfect nation when Daniel served there, neither was Egypt when Moses served there. Yet Christians in this latter day would accuse them of supporting all the evil in those nations simply because they did their duty.

Babylon and Egypt were as ungodly as the US, yet much greater men than any of us served there. And Daniel and Moses weren't responsible for all the evil in those countries as prideful Christians today would charge.

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[Prov 22:29] Seest thou a man diligent in his business? he shall stand before kings; he shall not stand before mean men.
I don't believe unpatriotic and ungrateful men can be considered diligent. And no where do I see service to one's country as being a bad thing.

And this is what happens when so-called Christians aren't diligent:
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[Prov 12:24] The hand of the diligent shall bear rule: but the slothful shall be under tribute.
Christians, under the guise of "righteousness" have declared defeat and are willingly turning the rule over to the ungodly. Then I'm sure they'll considered themselves great martyrs when the ungodly that they've effectively put in power by their inaction make unfavorable laws and put them under tribute. It appears the OP already considers himself a martyr because he got his feelings hurt on a forum. But a true martyr doesn't bring martyrdom on himself by inaction and allowing the ungodly to take power unchallenged.

But then, what would I know? I just believe what the Bible says and I don't see anything in the US Constitution that I don't see worth defending. And I've never stood before kings, just a couple of presidents, but I guess I'll be accused of being responsible for all the unfavorable things they've done rather than getting credit for having a Christian influence.

I don't see how Christians will be held guiltless who sit back and let their country be destroyed. Just as all of Israel paid for the sin of Achan, Christians shouldn't pretend that they can just set themselves above their country and not suffer the consequences of their inaction.


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Forgive me, but it sounds as if you are attempting to justify America by saying that our good outweighs our bad. It is not only the number (60,000,000 is more accurate in the U.S.), but the fact that it is legal and approved of and embraced by our leadership and our people.

Well I have to correct you on this, abortion is "approved of and embraced" by SOME of our leadership and SOME our people.

This is the total disconnect with your limited perspective and your Chomsky/Wright narrative that America is somehow all bad, with nothing worth salvaging.

Gallup’s newest poll shows more Americans consider themselves pro-life, that's roughly half the country like over 100 million pro-lifers out there and you don't think that's worth salvaging -->

http://liveactionnews.org/gallups-newes ... -pro-life/

Another poll shows 81 percent of Americans support dramatically stronger pro-life reforms -->

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/81-pe ... forms-poll

But let's just forget about all that -- because Colin Kaupernick Stafford believes that God doesn't wish for us to salvage our country; because you think it is beyond salvaging. I would hate to see what you did if we were on a ship and it sprang a leak! :?

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What if a German said, "Sure, Hitler killed 6 million Jews, but look at what he did for our country." Hitler and the government, police and military he led, are said to have killed 6 million people and he is said to be one of the most evil men that has ever existed.

I already addressed this. And I asked a question which you never answered -- how many people has America saved? How many millions would have died had Americans not bled and died to save them with our military presence, across Europe, Asia and other places? ( John 15:13 ) Why are you ignoring this, does it offend you? I guess the fact that we have real patriots who have laid down their lives for others doesn't even factor into your Chomsky/Kaupernick narrative. :roll:

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America has made it legal, and it still is today, to kill 60 million unborn babies and you just swept that number under the rug because, "but look at all the good we have done."

I haven't swept anything anywhere, sir. Please be careful of what you're accusing me of. I've been here for years, making posts about the horrors of the abortion industry and their sins. The difference between us is, you are only seeing the sinful side of America and you are pretending like there is nothing good worth "salvaging" here while vomiting up raw hate for America just like the liberal academics who are corrupting our young people in many of our universities.

Your quotes --->

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So, you go ahead and love your vile, godless, puny little America. I will love my country and only my country: the Kingdom of Heaven.

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All you seem to be hearing from me is that I hate a place that you love. A place that will not matter, in the end. I hate evil and godlessness and everything else God hates and I know that you hate all of those things too. I just happen to believe that I hate one more thing than you.

Seems to me you really do hate America.

Let me ask you this -- do you enjoy the protection provided you by the American police in your town? Do you enjoy and benefit from the freedom American patriots purchased for you with their blood? Do you ever stop to thank God for America when you carry on your furniture business, "reading, studying and discussing the KJV, amateur vegetable gardening, visiting historical one room churches, tattoo removal" and whatever else you do when you're not hating America?



Still has to pass a fight in the Senate,
but a small step in the right direction --->


BREAKING: US HOUSE VOTES TO DEFUND PLANNED PARENTHOOD

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/break ... -trumpcare

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Another step in the right direction?
that's two in one week! -->

Trump gives churches ‘their voices back’ on political issues

President Trump signed an executive order Thursday to make it easier for churches to participate in politics and to protect faith-based groups from being forced to pay for abortion services under Obamacare, proclaiming, “We are giving our churches their voices back.”

The president’s order is aimed at easing an IRS provision that prohibits churches from directly opposing or endorsing political candidates. The action will direct the IRS to immediately “exercise maximum enforcement discretion to alleviate the burden” of the so-called Johnson Amendment, a tax provision dating from 1954......

The directive also will allow nonprofit organizations to deny certain health coverage for religious reasons. It’s aimed at protecting Christian groups like Little Sisters of the Poor, who have waged a court battle against the government mandate under Obamacare, from being forced to pay for abortion services....

By administratively removing the Johnson Amendment, Faith & Freedom Coalition Chairman Ralph Reed said, the president’s order “removes a sword of Damocles that has hung over the faith community for decades.”

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... r-give-ch/

JAMES DOBSON:
"The combined effect of today’s executive order, legislative actions, and prayer service on the White House lawn are unprecedented. This president and vice president will go down in history as defenders of religious liberty, and I commend them for it,” he said.......

http://www.wnd.com/2017/05/faith-leader ... s-liberty/

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